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[Genius in Maine]

BTW, I just came up with a great twist. Whoever ends up hosting S6, it's almost as good as the post-merge tribe split from S4...

Small world--I've had a cool twist idea for S6 since before All-Stars. Had I thought of it earlier, I definitely would have used it (or tried to get it used) in S4.

[anthontherun]

ALL STAR COUNTERPARTS

Ethan Zohn and ccsyaoran

Aside from being Bobbi's favorite Survivor contestant, Ethan was one of the most honorable players in the game's history...until his friend Lex told him in All Stars that Ethan was going to be voted off before Jerri. Ethan was upset by this, kind of like ccs was in his final words the past two times he played the game.



Ethan made his first Survivor appearance on Survivor: Africa, regarded by Mark Burnett as the toughest Survivor location to date. On Ethan's team was Lex van den Berghe, who had almost immediately formed an alliance with "Big Tom" Buchannan, a Virginia goat farmer. While the lovely, beautiful, Kelly Goldsmith, and the old, challenge-liability, Kim Johnson agreed to vote with the two, Lex wanted another male alliance member in the alliance for safety at the final five. With Clarence Black having already alienated his entire tribe, he turned to Ethan Zohn. The final four consisted of Lex, Tom, Ethan, and Kim. Kim won the last two immunity challenges, and Tom and Lex were eliminated. In a 5-2 vote, Ethan became the third Sole Survivor.

All Stars was a different situation. Ethan was put on the Saboga tribe, with some of the all-time greatest players ever...and unfortunately for him, joining those great players was Jenna Lewis. Jenna insisted that the winners leave the game immediately, and when Saboga lost the first challenge, Survivor: The Australian Outback winner Tina Wesson became the game's first casualty. Ethan managed to escape the boot at Saboga's next TC, when 75-year-old former Navy SEAL Rudy Boesch was voted off. He couldn't escape the boot six episodes later, and became the eight person voted off.

ccs was originally in the second season of Survivor. He encouraged his team to vote off one of their strongest members, Dr. Dad, but at the third Tribal Council, ccs was shocked when he was the one with his torch snuffed.

Survivor 4 gave players who didn't go very far in the first three seasons of Weird Al Survivor a second chance. ccs was one of them, but once he got to the merge, it looked as though he would never be able to break apart the power alliance of gtrmu and i_love_yankovic. But luckily for him, a big twist changed the course of the game, allowing ccs to get to the final three. He was then voted off, and became the only juror to vote for iisryan to win the game, even though Fintron snagged the top prize.

In All Stars, ccs flew under the radar once again, even becoming an MIA player at one point. Unfortunately for him, he failed to cast a vote at one TC, and effectively voted himself off. Ethan might as well have done the same, since he was voted off by his tribe unanimously.

[anthontherun]

ALL STAR COUNTERPARTS

Kathy Vavrick O'Brien and lookatthenumbersinIandlaugh



Kathy and numbers were both strong competitors who made big mistakes in the game that knocked them out of the game shortly after an ally (in Kathy's case, Lex, in numbers' case, anthontherun) was voted off.

Kathy got third place in Survivor: Marquesas. A moment of modesty at the final immunity challenge cost her the game. Meanwhile, numbers was in Survivor 2. He was a quiet competitor but eventually fell victim to Bruce the Duck's "show-no-mercy" style of play.

According to Kathy, she was the one who made the final decision after a tribal shuffle on whether to keep Jerri, a tribemate with no work ethic, or Amber, a member of the other tribe who had formed a relationship with Kathy's friend, Boston Rob. In the end, she chose to save Amber, the biggest mistake in Survivor history since Colby chose to take Tina to the final two over Keith in Survivor: The Australian Outback. After Jerri was voted off, the tribes merged, and Lex was the next to go. After playing strongly for the first half of the game, Kathy had her torch snuffed out at the next Tribal Council.

Meanwhile, when numbers' ally, anthontherun was voted off Weird Al Survivor: All Stars, numbers joined in with the majority in voting him off (unlike Kathy, who voted against Amber despite the fact that she knew Lex was leaving). At the next TC, numbers forgot to vote, but it didn't matter. Everyone else had voted for him. Anth had proposed breaking up the Dave/Jackie alliance to many people but couldn't get the results he wanted, forcing him to vote for Melissa instead. Numbers' willingness to vote off someone who had been aligned with him from the start of the game made the other players weary of him, which caused him to be voted off.

Of course, one aspect of Kathy's game in Survivor: Marquesas can't be compared to numbers' game. After John got stung by a jellyfish, Kathy rushed over to pee on his hand (urine apparently remedies the pain...don't ask).

The only time this has happened in Weird Al Survivor history is when Driew peed on iisryan's hand back in season 1...not to nullify a jellyfish sting, but just because he felt like it.

[anthontherun]

ALL STAR COUNTERPARTS

Alicia Calaway and M3m3s3



Alicia and Melissa were both featured in the second seasons of their respective Survivors (Alicia in Survivor: The Australian Outback and Melissa in Weird Al Survivor 2). In terms of attitude, they aren't very comparable. But in terms of gameplay, both got stabbed in the back by alliance partners in their respective All Star seasons.

"Boston Rob" Mariano is easily one of the shadiest Survivor competitors of all time. He showed no compassion towards his fellow players, and took pleasure in blindsiding them at Tribal Council. After a tribal swap seperated him from his girlfriend/alliance partner, Amber, he
formed an alliance with Alicia, where she cryptically promised never to write his name down. (She kept her word: at the final Tribal Council, she voted for Amber to win the game.)

While Elvis isn't as sneaky as Boston Rob, he was also a very powerful force to be reckoned with. His alliance with Melissa was known early on, as were alliances with DrSteggy and anthontherun. At the merge, he turned on anth, with the help of Melissa. But two TCs later, Melissa was blindsided, and became the third member of the Weird Al Survivor All Stars jury.

[Teh Dingo]

Well, I guess I should say something here because I'll be hosting Survivor Season 6!


So......hi!



Join me after I tank the AlPrenti....er, I mean, after we finish the AlPrentice for what is sure to be the most butt kicking Survivor hosted by Spacedingo ever!!!!

[anthontherun]

I'll finish up the profiles later, but for right now, let's see how we rank all the seasons now that All Stars wrapped up.

1. Season 1 - The original and still the best I think. It's where the Greatest Survivor Moment (according to ATC) was from: Shock Value.

2. Season 4 - According to ATC, Best Twist came from this season--two new tribes formed post-merge. Despite the odd hosting situation, it featured a dramatic cast that really played the game.

3. All Stars - It was great to play and to watch, and luckily it wasn't like the real All Stars where the most memorable players went early on. The twists and challenges were awesome, but up until the end, it was kind of predictable. A twist saved it from becoming the Dave/Jackie Show but at that point, many other great players had already had their torches snuffed out.

4. Season 2 - Hosting-wise, definitely the worst season. As the host of the first season, it's surprising that people were so trusting of Bruce the Duck, who obviously knew the game well. He burned every player except CurlyFries and won against him in the final two. I was glad to see him win, because he was definitely the best player of the season (but let's see how he does in All Stars 2!).

5. Season 3 - The host and challenges were great but the cast was way too mellow. Other than the final TC, TCs were really boring affairs. Despite the first-ever WAS twist, the game was predictable up until the final three.

[Driew_La_27]

and luckily it wasn't like the real All Stars where the most memorable players went early on.

You didn't think the most exciting players didn't get out early? Dingo, me (not really I suck), you etc.....

[anthontherun]

Well, you, Allie, gtrmu, Kevbo, and Fintron went early. But early, I meant first half of the game approximately.

[Elvis]

(repost, so it doesn't get archived!)

To the best of my recollection: If anyone cares....

My Survivor Adventure

Pre-show

I knew anth would be the person to beat, and have alliances he could call upon all over the place, so my only hope was to make sure I was one of them. I told him flat out that I didn't care to win, I wasn't even that excited to be playing because I wouldn't be playing long, but if he could make sure I stayed in the game until the merge or so, I'd let him call in a favor later in the game -- like give up my immunity to him, or throw a challenge so he won -- something like that.

Anth jumped at the chance to align and told me he was already in an alliance with Driew and they were working on the votes to target gtrmu in the first TC (Remember, at this time, everyone thought there was still 2 tribes, split by profile color.) Fair enough, as long as I wasn't the target, I was on board. Driew was an added bonus, but since I didn't ask for the alliance with him, I didn't feel the need to be loyal to him if it came down to it. I'd see how it played out. Anth asked me to contact doggans and see if he wanted to join our alliance. I sent doggans a PM, but it remained unread for a few days, then once it was read, I received no response, so I told anth that I didn't think we could trust him.

The day before the game started, I contacted M3m3s, iisryan27, and gtrmu and formed alliances with all of them as well. I also had an obvious alliance with DrSteggy. My only concern was how to juggle the alliances, so I decided I'd just share the info I knew when it was to my advantage, but not offer any additional information. As the game started, Driew set up a Yahoo! group and I found myself in an alliance with GIM, Kevbo, gtrmu, anth, Driew, and DrSteggy. GIM and Kevbo were added bonus I didn't need to feel any loyalty to, but I trusted them from the beginning, so I didn't think I'd have any trouble with either.

Challenge #1: "One Tribe Surprise"

The plan was still to take gtrmu out of the game so I'm not sure why he was invited to the group. I had an alliance with him, but the others didn't know. Fortunately we weren't in tribes, and Anth and Driew won the first challenge, so we were looking good. But then we got word that weirdallie27 was targeting DrSteggy, I was able to convince Anth that we needed to protect our alliance (and my alliance with gtrmu) so we went after weirdallie27 instead. I told gtrmu that I would vote for ccs, but I had no intention of voting for ccs.

We needed a couple more votes, so I contacted doggans and ccs. doggans told me that he was swamped with schoolwork, which is why he didn't answer my previous note, but he was on board. At that point I knew he'd do whatever I told him to, or worst case, not show and vote for himself. ccs said he was on board as long as gtrmu was next, which didn't seem to be a problem, since that's what the group wanted anyway. ccs turned out to be a very valuable alliance to me throughout the game. DrSteggy got Mecca on board, and he wanted a Final Three alliance with me and her in return. So it turned out that the last person we contacted for an alliance, turned out to be our best alliance partner.

Challenge #2: "Beard Hal Rhyme Time"

gtrmu was deleted from the group so that we could talk more freely. The next challenge, I won immunity and almost gave my second immunity to gtrmu because he was the next target, and careful analysis of the votes, showed that although there was a traitor among us and I didn't know who he was, gtrmu actually did vote for ccs as he promised me, so I could trust him. I decided that I needed the help of anth and group more than I needed the help of gtrmu alone, so I gave my second immunity to DrSteggy, since it was pretty obvious to everyone that I had an alliance with her anyway.

When it came down to vote, there was more than the majority, so I knew gtrmu was going home, but I still felt a loyalty to him, so I couldn't vote for him. I held off my vote as long as possible to mess with Jeremy's mind (remember, if you don't vote, the vote goes against you, but I had immunity, so I couldn't receive a vote, >:)), and it was a good thing I did, because Melissa uncovered that Driew actually voted for DrSteggy and betrayed us in the first TC. I brought this to the attention of anth, and he was pissed, so Driew would be the next to go. It was too late to do anything then because most of the votes had already been cast. I told anth, I would vote for Driew this time in case there was a tie next time, we'd have the advantage of not having to go to a tiebreaker. This worked out great for me because I was still loyal to gtrmu by not voting for him, and still loyal to my alliance with anth as well. Plus as far as everyone else knew I had voted for gtrmu.

I almost made a fatal mistake by tellng gtrmu, after the fact, that I voted for Driew. Word got back to Driew and he approached me about it. I carefully worded my response and Driew bought it. Meantime, Mecca was invited to the Yahoo! group.

Challenge #3: "Al's Co-workers Reprise"

Melissa had first choice, I told her to pick me, because I knew I did well in the challenge (close enough only for spacedingo to edge me by a few points), and with both of us on the same tribe, we wouldn't go to TC. Plus people would think she chose me because of the points I received, not because we had an alliance. When Jeremy split the tribes again, this was only a minor inconvienience because of my strong alliance with Melissa. I chose GIM first because he was in the big alliance and anth and DrSteggy were already chosen. My next choice was ccs because of our secret alliance, which would give me a majority vote if we went to TC. My next choice was mewrio, only because I knew he actually submitted something. Last choice was doggans because if he showed up to vote, he would vote with me as well. If not, he'd vote himself off eventually.

We lost the points total (no surprise really with ccs and doggans on the tribe) so at the first TC, I was all set for mewrio to go. GIM wiould vote with me, and I'd let ccs and doggans know to vote for mewrio. And if they didn't vote, no big deal, because they'd vote for themselves, and GIM and I would still have majority. My only concern was that mewrio would be more helpful in challenges than ccs or doggans. But then someone alerted me that Jeremy posted updated rules that if a tribe only has 3 members, it gets dissolved. That allowed us to keep mewrio one more time, and drop some unreliable deadweight. So, I told mewrio and GIM to vote for doggans. This also built some trust between mewrio and myself, which would come into play near the end of the game.

Challenge #4: "Disgusting Food Competition"

All of the group challenges (except the first) were all about winning immunity for my tribe. At this point in the game, I was part of a few strong alliances, and I felt pretty comfortable that my tribe mates would keep me around for the group challenges, and as long as we won immunity, we wouldn't get disbanded or go to Tribal Council, and I could just sit back and let the other tribes pick each other off. For the group challenges, I stayed in close contact with anth, Melissa, and Jackie to make sure my alliance members stayed safe, and so that I knew who was going home each time, but I didn't worry too much how the votes would go.

If we lost this challenge, GIM, ccs. and I would vote for mewrio, and I'd tell mewrio to vote for GIM, under the pretext that GIM was a stronger player than ccs, so we needed him out before he helped another tribe. ccs's vote really didn't matter again, as GIM and I would have majority without him.

Challenge #5: "Thread Posting"

This challenge was, again, all about winning immunity for my tribe. If we lost, same scenario as above, mewrio would have gone home. Plus, after the challenge, we picked up spacedingo when his tribe disbanded, so that made our tribe all that much stronger, and me all that much safer.

Challenge #6: "Video Scavenger Hunt"

Another group challenge where I just tried to win immunity and didn't care how the other tribes voted. mewrio was still on the chopping block for us if we had lost. But alas, no TC for us, and here's where my previous vote against Driew came back to haunt him. >:)

Challenge #7: "Go Fish For Parodies"

Another group challenge. mewrio still on the chopping block. No need for TC, as we won immunity again.

Challenge #8: "The Big Pun Challenge"

Another group challenge. Same story. After this challenge we picked up anth and Fintron.

Challenge #9: "Picture Puzzle Maze"

Melissa and I won immunity, while the rest of our tribes went to TC. Kevbo quit, meaning only my tribe had to go to TC. Fintron got voted out solely because he was the new guy. Losing Kevbo here was a mixed blessing because he had been a very loyal alliance member, and probably would have stuck to the alliance to the end. But at the same time, I felt Kevbo would be more loyal to anth than myself if it ever came down to it. So I think it was good for me that he left. I still felt I had the alliances I needed to protect myself from votes anyway.

Challenge #10: "THE OUTCASTS' REVENGE!"

The tribes shuffled again, and once the dust settled, I found myself on a tribe with AlsGal27, Mecca, anth, mewrio. and GIM. My tribe lost this one, but it was a unanimous decision to get rid of another deadbeat, AlsGal27.

Challenge #11: "Mock Interview Mix-Up"

We won immunity on this one, but had we lost, I believe mewrio was once again on the chopping block. I learned that Jackie and Melissa were targeting numbers, but their plan involved making sure ccs voted. Despite my constant and relentless PMs to ccs reminding him to vote every single time, ccs forgot to vote this time and voted himself out. And I lost one of my secret alliances.

Challenge #12: "Tribal Council Parody"

I got to play Robert DeNiro's Mole on this one, and my scheming wasn't good enough. Because my tribe won, I went to TC with Jackie, Mecca, numbers, Alexis, and spacedingo. All 10 people voted. Spacedingo did what I felt people should have been doing from the beginning of the game, he tried to get people to vote for me! But at that point, I was in a tight alliance with everyone except mewrio, numbers, and Alexis. But numbers and Alexis had an alliance with Melissa and Jackie, and I used the trust I built up with mewrio to get him to vote for spacedingo, and we unanimously voted out spacedingo. . (True, Mecca voted for Alexis, but he jumped the gun. It didn't matter though, as long as it was a vote for anyone other than me, we still had majority.)

Challenge #13: "The Pecking Order"

I believe at this point, anth and I agreed that numbers would be the next to go. In the game play, I threw a few votes Mecca's way to throw off our alliance, and Jackie and I came down to the final two. Jackie went on to win immunity and Al's Buddy Reward. She chose to wipe her vote total clean, and almost immediately, Mecca got word that anth wanted to vote me out, and he already had GIM on board. Mecca shared that information with Melissa, Jackie, and I, and I immediately decided that anth had to go. To throw him off, Mecca replied to anth telling him he'd vote for me, even though he'd actually vote for anth.

We were reaching out to numbers, Alexis, and mewrio, when Mecca got another PM from anth. Anth's plan was starting to fall apart. GIM changed his mind and refused to vote for me. Instead GIM wanted to vote out Melissa. Anth sent me a PM telling me that Mecca wanted to vote for me, and that we should just take Mecca out. Right after that, he, sent another one telling me that GIM wanted to vote Melissa out. Then anth started to panic. He tried to call in my favor that if he helped me get to the merge, that I'd take a dive for him. But it was really too late for him. I used his notes against him to solidify my alliance with Mecca and Melissa, and we blind-sided anth.

Challenge #14: "The Star Wars 28th Anniversary Commemorative Challenge"

Our plan was to vote out GIM this time, since he was the only one to side with anth. But GIM won immunity. So it came down to whether to get rid of numbers or Alexis. We decided to get rid of numbers, because we weren't sure of his previous voting record.

Challenge #15: "Six Degrees of Twists"

No immunity and no reward on this challenge, but I don't think it would have mattered. Melissa was the intended target from the beginning, because Jackie and I were starting to get worried that Melissa might not be true to our alliance. We were pretty confident that GIM would vote for her with us, because he wanted Melissa out previously. And mewrio was voting however I asked him to, so with Mecca and Jackie, I had the votes we needed to get rid of Melissa. And we were right on about her not intending to stay true, because after the challenge, Melissa approached Jackie and Mecca about voting me off. She convinced Alexis to vote for me telling Alexis that she wanted an all girl Final 3 with Jackie. Mecca and Jackie stayed true to me, and we voted out Melissa.

Challenge #16: "Weird Al Logic Puzzle"

The next target was Alexis, but a twist put anth back in the game, and that pretty much meant I was going home. We were always at least one vote ahead of what we needed, but with anth's vote it forced a tie. Unfortunately, if I went head to head with anyone in a tie, I would have lost because of my previous votes. I tried to win back Alexis's and GM's vote, but I knew it was a longshot. I decided that if I couldn't win, then surely I wasn't going to let those responsible for voting me off win!!! >:) I got a guarantee from Jackie and Mecca that if I was voted out, they would avenge my death. Their next target would be GIM, followed by Alexis.

Mewrio, Jackie, and Mecca voted for Alexis with me, but anth convinced Alexis and GIM to use his double vote, and vote me out. My game was over. Now I'd just have to sit back and wait for Jackie and Mecca to get to the Final Two. I was so confident that they would make it to the Final Two, that I wrote the comments that I used at the Final TC the night I got voted out. I used them word for word at the Final TC.

Winter Hiatus

Spent a nice relaxing week in Las Vegas, at the Hoover Dam, and at the Grand Canyon.

Challenge #17: "The Medley From Hell!"

All I know is Jackie spent every free moment she had working on this thing. As they promised me, Mecca and Jackie voted off GIM.

Challenge #18: "All Star Trivia"

Once again, as they promised me, Mecca and Jackie voted off Alexis.

Challenge #19: "Every Song Ever Written in the History of the World"

At this point it was obvious that if Mecca won immunity, he'd take Jackie to the Final Two, and if Jackie won, she'd take Mecca. Mewrio's only chance would be to win immunity, and since he didn't bother to show up for the challenge, there was no chance of that.

FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL

Cut and paste previously written speech. Send vote for Jackie to the host. Done.



Dave

[anthontherun]

we blind-sided anth.

Not quite. If I felt safe in an alliance with you, I wouldn't have targetted you. In fact, the first sign was in that Pecking Order challenge when Jackie took off one of my points even though people who weren't aligned with her and Dave were still left.

That's when I realized, "Oh crap." As you mentioned, I was frantically PMing everyone and almost got GIM to vote for you, but he told me that he had hoped to go to the final two with you and Jackie. It soon became obvious that I had no chance, but at least I went out fighting.

And I got my revenge a few TCs later.